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Post by LadyGelinaGrey on Jan 4, 2004 4:31:36 GMT -5
OMG...whine whine whine...cry cry cry...if it's so d**n bad here...then why do you all stay? If RhyDin is so much better...then go...GoldenMyst is a good place. And there is a reason that those of us "older" ones stick around...it's because we didn't whine and cry everytime someone didn't pay attention to us, or when we felt "alienated". We just played. We played until we were noticed and we went from there.
I am part of the "older click" as you so elegantly put it...and I STILL get ignored in the kingdom. I was ignored the other night. Did I whine about it? Nope. I rp'd and eventually someone said something in my direction. Just because you are in the room doesn't mean that everyone automatically has to rp with you.
If you also notice...those of us that you consider to be the old ones...we have dominate charries. Is that our fault? Nope...that is the way it worked out.
I myself try really hard to get to know everyone in the kingdom. There are only a few that I don't know and that is because they are really new or because they joined and never stepped foot back into GM after they hit the roster. I try really hard to come when called...and I try really hard to talk to everyone in a room when it's fairly full. Unless I am in a heavy SL at the time and I just can't do it.
As for RhyDin rooms? I was in one tonight for a MS. What a mistake that was. You think we are rude here? Oh please...I forgot to state the person I was attacking and the proctor flipped out on me. Threatened to boot me from the room. Needless to say I won the MS then promptly took my leave. And that is exactly why I refuse to play in RhyDin.
If everyone would stop with the "me me me" and get a cure for the "all about me" syndrome...GM would be a really great place to play. I for one am not giving up. I will stay in GM until I quit rping. Which won't be for a long long time.
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Lady Desari
Noble 
Mistress of Ravenswood
"Trantz Ssinssrig Zaha Mal'rak"
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Post by Lady Desari on Jan 4, 2004 8:08:58 GMT -5
:: blinks :: Good god I miss a lot while I am at work...
I started RP'ing a little over a year ago...I had help to get started...:: hugs her sister :: I must have driven her insane for the first three months I RP'ed...Where did I come to join? GM right off the bat...Have I been in other rooms? Oh hell ya...Were they any better then GM? Not in my book...They are rude and nasty if they don't like your RP...And trust me they will let you know...When I started did I expect Desari to become as well known as she is? Nope...It just happened...Did everyone pay attention to me when I came into a room? Hell no...There would be nights I would sit there...No one talking to my char so what did I do? Watched...Learned and paid attention...I am so sick of all the whiners that have come and gone over the last year it actually makes me ill...Ya don't like it? There is the door...As for the cliques you mentioned? Get over it...Some of us are no longer in high school...Its the "older ones" as you put it that have been here and busted their butts for what they have and who they are...What did you think you would just walk in, be the center of attention and move ahead just like that? Sorry does not work like that...In the time it takes to whine about something...You could have done something positive with your char...Again it is the "All about me"...Well guess what? It is not all about me...It is about EVERYONE...The sooner everyone realizes this the better it will be...
::clings to her sister:: Good thread you started hun...Love you...Miss you...
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Post by King Nicho Klojhen on Jan 4, 2004 11:57:25 GMT -5
::Chuckles:: Ok, since we are talking about when we started, I remember the old days...
When I first started RP it was not online either, I started with a D&D Basic set. We soon outgrew the set of rules that came with it and expanded it on our own until discovering AD&D several years later.
When I first started Role Playing online, AOL cost $2.95 per hour after 10 hours a month. I remember having to take out a loan to pay an $800 AOL bill. Needless to say, I stopped with the RP on AOL for a while after that.
In those days, the RP was better in general. Why? Because only dedicated RP'ers would spend the money to do so. There were still newbies and moders, both were for the most part ignored.
Do I miss those days? No. I look back on them fondly sometimes, but I praise the day AOL started to offer unlimited service.
There is greater diversity today, and endless possibilities. One no longer has to live in RhyDin to be a part of things. I do miss the AOL sponsored RhyDin message boards, there were often good threads there.
AOL Created the dice for use in RP, then banned them from their own rooms when people started abusing them.
Perhaps the main point of the original text of this thread, to me, is the fact that a Death Match was final. If you died, you deleted your SN and started a new character. Perhaps that sounds cruel, but it made people think before commiting rash acts.
As far as guilds go, you were nobody unless you belonged to a guild. Today it is possible to simply haunt a particular Inn or Tavern and eventually make friends. (Ok, so your friend may be a phaser wielding pokemon and has 4d5000, but a friend is a good thing.)
All in all though, things are neither better nor worse today, there will always be newbies, there will always be moders. I've always tried to help the newbie with potential, everyone has to start sometime. Though personally I was never a newbie, my first few hours online were spent watching and learning. My first character still exists today, though I rarely pull him out of retirement.
Back then there was more structure to the realms and less frivolity, and most guilds had basically the same rules. GoldenMyst itself is founded on the old school rules, we don't have monster dice for that reason. I don't believe there is any need for d100's, the whole point of the dice is to allow a character to miss once in a while.
As to the matter of posting. I've always believed that the length of a post matters less than the quality of the post. Sure, I've played in rooms where each post must be a certain length, and I'm generally bored by the people that go into endless descriptive detail, taking fifteen posts to make an entrance. On the flipside, it is hard to take someone seriously when they post little one liners like. ::walks in:: ::gets a drink::
Often when the castle gets busy and I am trying to respond to several people at once, I have to resort to shorter posts, simply to keep up. And as most of you know, IM's drive me to distraction when I am trying to keep up with the room. I do prefer longer posts, if they include details that make your character an individual. However, long posts are not necessarly good RP.
Now there was one issue I wish to address because I do think it is important. I too have felt ignored in the castle, with everyone tied up in their little SL's, sometimes no one even says hello. Is this bad? No, I admit it is preferable to having everyone try to talk to me at once. I generally use the time to set up my own SL or just have Nicho go for a walk. On the flip side, I don't want to break into the ongoing SL's so I don't interupt to say hello either.
Basically, if your character is having trouble getting noticed, it is generally because your char is not doing anything besides moping. Sometimes you must be the one to start a conversation. Making an entrance and waiting to be noticed is bogus. If you want to interact, then do so.
Personally, I will interact with any character that talks to me, providing they remain aware of others that may be nearby and interacting with me also. It drives me nuts sometimes when a person will walk in and start talking to me as if I am the only person in the room, ignoring those I was already speaking to.
And lastly, for I am neglecting the roster to make this post and need to get on with it, GoldenMyst is a guild, a kingdom and a forum all in one. More importantly, GoldenMyst is our home. I have seen bigger guilds, I have seen smaller guilds, none have the family atmosphere that we have come to know and love as GoldenMyst. Sure, the old timers stick together. We don't know the newer people as well, is that our fault? Yet the new members are not excluded, we will talk to you if you talk to us. We all have to make an effort to make it work.
Yes, I've been around for a long time, I've seen RhyDin in it's 'glory days' and RhyDin as it is now. Just the other day I ran into an old timer that was returning to the realms and I am proud to say they found GoldenMyst and Gold Horn to be the only "True" RP around.
So take it from an old timer, GoldenMyst is something to be proud of. We are entering our third RL year of continued existance, which is more than most guilds can say. We are, on the whole, larger that most guilds and more active than many others.
A person can always complain that things are not the way they were, but what can we do to make things better?
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Post by Kolava on Jan 4, 2004 13:47:00 GMT -5
That was well written, and it made me proud to be in GoldenMyst. I had a feeling that something was different about KoGM when I came to it after leaving my fifth RhyDin "guild".
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Post by trist on Jan 4, 2004 14:11:25 GMT -5
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Post by Cherise on Jan 4, 2004 17:06:04 GMT -5
- Pets Trist. - That's why people come back to Goldenmyst. The guild flowered and the patrons act like a family, both characters and muns. And everyone likes that. ^__^
We love the love! XD
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Post by r a i n e on Jan 4, 2004 18:46:53 GMT -5
Reminds me of this t-shirt I saw in Hot Topic: "Know your roots"
My roots...hm...Well, I started Role Playing around ten or eleven, so four or five years ago. I started out on a discussion board, ASMR, which I discovered some year or two after frequenting their Sailor Moon fanfiction archive. XD
I was respected, because I took the time to use proper grammar as I had been taught, and I described things. When first introduced to the world of Role Playing, I was taught that it was writing a story, and my posts were as such.
I later advanced to Rhydin with the discovery of chat rooms and I frequented the Red Dragon Inn. I was the biggest lil' moder, solely because I didn't understand the rules, nor did anyone make any attempt to help me.
I owe my "transformation" to the mun who heads Brimstone, and her character Deva LaDevia. I had attempted to join a guild, and lucky for them (sarcasm), Brimstone was the first I came across. I did not understan the rules then, but they were the first to make any sort of attempt to explain them to me. Sadly, they got pissed off with me and banned me before I was able to change.
I continued to RP in random rooms, inns, beaches, you name it, I played there. And eventually I came across GoldenMyst.
That's when I created Raine, and those of you that can remember me when I had first joined, she's grown, and so have I.
When I joined GoldenMyst, I understood what it was to Role Play in a chatroom, and my character, along with myself, was accepted.
Personally, I am very proud to be a member of GoldenMyst. This is the best place I have ever had the opportunity to Role Play in. Yes, everyone's life is a tragic soap opera in one way or another, but would you really have it any other way? I know I wouldn't.
As for the clique's, it's only natural. You'll stick with who you're comfortable with, migrate to that familiar face. Note that the older members don't get aggitated at the fact that the newer members tend to hang out together, so who are the newer members to become aggitated with the older ones for talking to their friends?
Ravioli is good.
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Post by princesssummer on Jan 4, 2004 22:20:03 GMT -5
all this togetherness talk makes me think of a togetherness song... it goes a little something like this.
Holla!
People sing around
Now people gather round
Now people jump around
Go!
Getcha freak on (go)
Getcha freak on (go)
Getcha freak on (go)
Getcha freak on (go)
Getcha freak on (go)
Getcha freak on (go)
Getcha getcha getcha getcha, getcha freak on!
See... when you get your freak on there is togetherness. ;D
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Post by Cherise on Jan 5, 2004 7:43:38 GMT -5
xD - hugs her hilton sis - That was beautiful.
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Post by trist on Jan 5, 2004 9:13:16 GMT -5
okay, i think i'm getting some of this thread after reading it 3 times since i never was a part of the "old" Rhydin. I only first started to experience GoldenMyst within the past year and Gold Horn a couple years ago back while i was rping in only private chats because of being sick of all the people that came in thinking that they could just make up their own SL right in the middle of another that was playing out at the moment. That rping guild that i was in is now no more... As it was breaking up, i started coming to public rooms. In one room my newest char, a 15 year old at the time, was beat up in a Rhydin room... apparently i wasn't a good enough rper so they beat up my char. I stopped going into Rhydin rooms and came into GoldenMyst, where thanks to Sir Pattrick's mun for noticing my char, or else he would have died. GoldenMyst is a lot better than any Rhydin room. especially ones who beat up someones char because they don't like their rping style. But i have gone through what Des has gone through. Totally ignored, its a great chance to just watch and learn other styles of rping and incorporating it into your own.
I now frequent goldenMyst and Gold Horn, except when AOL is crapping out on me. I may still be a little "about me" but i am atleast working on that, in rl and IC. That's all i've got to say for now.
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