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Post by Stoic Soul on May 20, 2004 16:39:53 GMT -5
Wow... I would say this is all so sudden, but then again, I am sure it was in the coming for a while. I can see what all of you guys have been dealing with, though not all of it, since I havent been here as long as the rest of you. Paul, you're right, some people can be really sick and make things up to get attention and sympathy from others. The part about 9/11 is what really surprises and sickens me, for I actually saw the Towers get hit, and collapse shortly after. I know people who lost loved ones, and almost lost my own dad in the North Tower. But, with the whole thing about just telling everyone "screw you" and leaving. Its not right. Yea, go ahead, bite my head off, someones bound to anyway. You do that, and you'll just continue the bad feelings that have gone around. Yea, Im sure you all have been bashed on repeatedly by some people who either have to have things their way or they bitch about it, or the ones who just have to put in their "two cents" so they feel special. You know what,ignore them. If you have to leave for IRL reasons, fine, that I can understand. But, if you leave because of the incessant bashing and commenting, like Kolava said, you let them win. Also, Paul, about what you said with letting the others deal with the problems. Well, yea, you and the other senior members have done alot for the kingdom. But, you should realize that not alot of people have been given the opportunity to be part of the decision-making. Its been basically the same people making the decisions since the beginning. And yea, they have done a good job running the kingdom. But, you, Paul, say "screw" them and let them make decisions isnt a good idea. Well, You can all just disregard this as a ramblings of someonewho doesnt know whatsgoing on. And you know what, I dont know alot of whats been going on. Or, you can actually read this and respond to it. I dont care.
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Post by Cherise on May 20, 2004 16:43:58 GMT -5
- ruffles up her hair after reading all of the posts. -
All I can really, is wow.
I haven't been here long. I've dipped in and out of roleplay for about four years. I have not seen the fall of anything, I was just deposited into the world as what it is.
I could go on and on, but I'm going to make things short.
Shari, I love you very much, and I respect you very much. The things you did for this guild were incredible. The work and sweat and time you put into helping this guild is astounding. Everyone knows that.
Some times were tense, some times were fun, we all had our inbetweens. But I hope when you're thinking about us, and Goldenmyst in general, please don't think of all of the bad things. Think of the good times. View us in a positive light, if you still can.
I wish you best luck with finding your role back in real life. I'm sure you already know it, and you see the work you've got to accomplish. But you're an avid worker, and soon you'll see that your family is everything.
But I think it's safe to assume that you have a family here, as well. Another family to fall back on.
Whatever the case may be, I wish you well.
And, as always, keep that cup of coffee waiting for me in October, because I promise that I'll be there no matter what.
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Post by trist on May 20, 2004 20:59:50 GMT -5
All I can say is good for you Lina, I pray that things will be getting better for you irl. You and your family will be in my prayers. Good luck with the rest of your life.
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Post by LadyGelinaGrey on May 21, 2004 7:28:01 GMT -5
Wow. I don't know what to say. It's not often that I am left speechless as you all know. ::grins then forces out a few words anyway::
Thank you all so much for your support. And thank you for not seeing this as "Oh she's throwing another hissy and quitting again". Sounds to me like you all see it for what it is. And I appreciate it.
I just want to remind all of you that I am not leaving permanently, that I will still have a charrie in GM and I will still be around. Just more focused on my life instead of my computer. Eventually I will get a new account to rid myself of the sn "Gelina Grey". I don't want the temptation of bringing her back, seeing as how my stupid ass made it the master screen name. LOL. I never claimed to bright folks. ::giggles:: I love you all and thank you so much for being a part of my life.
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Post by The Arcane Artist on May 21, 2004 9:52:07 GMT -5
lol it's ok we can all be a bit blonde sometimes ;D
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Post by Cherise on May 21, 2004 14:40:30 GMT -5
Me especially. ^_^ Wait, I'm a red head. oo; Well, same difference.
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Post by jaysoncesta on May 21, 2004 20:55:58 GMT -5
i didnt see this till just now ::sighs:: i understand why you doing this lina and all are for the right reasons its just annoys me that you start something with my char that now i know you will never finnish this just came to me without any warning. im not sure if it was my fault that i brought up painful things just by rping with you but i really dont know now i feel bad oddly enough me and my char are connected and i feel quite sick right now but it doesnt matter you will just ignore it anyway because it is your choice and i cant do anything to stop it. jayson has went through this before he will do it again.... farewell lina
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Post by LadyGelinaGrey on May 21, 2004 21:23:26 GMT -5
I didn't make this decision until two days ago. At the time I started rping with you on the boards and such, I didn't have intentions on doing this. So no, I didn't start playing with you knowing this was going to happen. It has absolutely nothing to do with you nor Jayson. And don't think for one minute that I don't understand being connected to my charrie. This is one of the hardest things I have had to do.
I love rping with you. And I love your charrie. But there comes a time when IRL must come first. As for your feelings not mattering to me? That's a lie. I thought of you while making this decision believe it or not. And I resent that you would think of me that way. You don't know me, hell you have never even talked to me ooc about anything. So how would you know how I feel?
I took into consideration what this would do to people. But at this point in my life I can't help that right now. I am doing this for me. For the first time in my life. Yes this is all about me. Not you, not anyone else. ME. I have put others before myself all my life, IC and OOC. I still do it ooc. My husband gets on me about it all the time. I hate making decisions. Most people know that about me. So me making this one, those that know me, know that this wasn't easy. And if you can't understand that? Then I am sorry. But I don't owe anyone anything, and I am not backing out of my choice. I have my reasons.
I didn't want to get nasty about this, but being accused of doing this on purpose to someone just pisses me off. I had planned on having Jayson in the SL with her until the end. If you don't want that, fine. So be it. But don't go around thinking that I did this just to hurt Jayson or to start something and not finish it. I didn't know that the rp on the boards with Jayson and Lina would go so far. I just replied because I loved your nightmare post. It was well written. You're a good rp'er. But to sit there and tell me that how this affects others doesn't matter to me? No. I don't think so. And that's not ok with me. And if you were really connected to your charrie as you say you are? Then you would be more understanding like Jayson is with Lina.
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Post by PaulAVincent on May 22, 2004 1:21:27 GMT -5
i didnt see this till just now ::sighs:: i understand why you doing this lina and all are for the right reasons its just annoys me that you start something with my char that now i know you will never finnish this just came to me without any warning. im not sure if it was my fault that i brought up painful things just by rping with you but i really dont know now i feel bad oddly enough me and my char are connected and i feel quite sick right now but it doesnt matter you will just ignore it anyway because it is your choice and i cant do anything to stop it. jayson has went through this before he will do it again.... farewell lina No offense, but I don't believe that you have much if any right to judge anyone who you just met on decisions they make, especially if they're making a decision that they're happy with. She's making the choice for herself. You feel sick? ...C'mon, knock it off and stop acting like she owes you something. Don't respond to me, I won't answer. Use capitals at the begining of sentinces. Wash your ass. Kolava you are one of those 25% by far. You're one of the upper 5%. Don't ever let anyone take away from you that you're a gifted idealist and creative. If people stop responding it's not because you're not doing a good job, it's because most people are becoming so self concerned they only concentrate on their own characters and don't read or pay attention to others. See above for a perfect example. Paul, you're right, some people can be really sick and make things up to get attention and sympathy from others. The part about 9/11 is what really surprises and sickens me, for I actually saw the Towers get hit, and collapse shortly after. I know people who lost loved ones, and almost lost my own dad in the North Tower. But, with the whole thing about just telling everyone "screw you" and leaving. Its not right. Yea, go ahead, bite my head off, someones bound to anyway. You do that, and you'll just continue the bad feelings that have gone around. Yea, Im sure you all have been bashed on repeatedly by some people who either have to have things their way or they bitch about it, or the ones who just have to put in their "two cents" so they feel special. You know what,ignore them. If you have to leave for IRL reasons, fine, that I can understand. But, if you leave because of the incessant bashing and commenting, like Kolava said, you let them win. Also, Paul, about what you said with letting the others deal with the problems. Well, yea, you and the other senior members have done alot for the kingdom. But, you should realize that not alot of people have been given the opportunity to be part of the decision-making. Its been basically the same people making the decisions since the beginning. And yea, they have done a good job running the kingdom. But, you, Paul, say "screw" them and let them make decisions isnt a good idea. Well, You can all just disregard this as a ramblings of someonewho doesnt know whatsgoing on. And you know what, I dont know alot of whats been going on. Or, you can actually read this and respond to it. I dont care. Mobius, I like you, and that's why I didn't get offended by this. Three issues to adress though. First the 9/11 thing. Yeah, I almost lost loved ones as well, we had a member of the kingdom who went missing after the event. I had just taken control of the kingdom and opened it before this happened, so when it happened I wrote a letter to the kingdom to help not only explain the event and express concern to everyone, but to personally extend a hand for anyone who needed help, and many people took me up on that offer. I don't believe I ever truely was a good leader, but if I had any shining moments this may have been one of them because I like to think i helped a number of people ease the grief from simple words of encouragment to the notion of having a second family to cry with together. Then... time goes on and eventually we go to war, and again with Iraq. Both times multiple people from our kingdom, yes our members faked going to war. That makes my stomach hurt. The ones who faked it from 9/11 I kicked out instantly. The ones who faked it from Iraq... Well I know at least 3 did it which is an insult to those who actually went. An insult to Ichiro, to Oryx, to anyone who is actually risking their lives over there. At least one of those members is still in the kingdom, yeah you know who you are you sick pervert. As far as the leadership, actually a good number of people have shared the leadership role. Anyone who wanted it and was willing to work for it usually got a spot in the high council. Even people who didn't deserve it. The problem Mobius was never the leadership in my opinion. Nicho does a good job, he's not perfect but who is? For what he's faced with he does a good job, but he can't be expected to do it all alone and that's the problem. If Nicho thinks something is a good idea and no one from the high council says otherwise, then it goes out as a good idea. If the High Council is afraid to speak up then what's the point of them being there? For the leadership to work out everyone needs to contribute, you can't blame Nicho for everything, and you especially can't blame him if you don't want to help with the creative process but are willing to say how much is sucks later. No one is perfect, and I don't expect Nicho or any other leader to be. It's a shame that half of you do, and in that case your problems go much deeper than RP and your in for some major disappointments in life. But on to the last thing, you said leaving is letting them win and you only understand leaving for RL reasons. I did leave for RL reasons. In RL I used to like playing a game on aol called role playing and at times it was fun and at times it wasn't fun, but lately it's been more of the second. My RL reasons for leaving the first time were not enough time, the second time was out of frusteration with the constant complaining people did but lack of desire to actually help things improve. Why complain you want more events if you don't show up to the events that are held? Believe it or not, many people did just that. This third time I havn't really gone anywhere, there's just no where to go. I never see the castle open, and the people I enjoyed playing with are almost all gone. It's no more wrong to say "screw you" to the bad players who poison RP than it is for them to change RP from a fun enjoyable game people can play together to a sick world where people are faking their deaths and doing other disgusting attention grabbing things to make others feel sympathy for them. In fact, saying screw you isn't wrong at all. I put alot of my time and passion into helping (keyword: helping, not doing it alone) make this place a great place to be. And seeing what their poison has done to it and my friends disgusts me. I don't care what people think of me, but I refuse to pretend I like people who I don't. I don't play like that, I won't stab you in the back if I don't like you, I'll go for the chest. Am I letting "them" win? You can say that, but who's the winner in the end if I'm happy and "they" are sitting around unhappy and complaining? |
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Post by Stoic Soul on May 22, 2004 1:38:06 GMT -5
Well, you do have a point there, Paul. Thought what I meant about IRL reasons are like what Lina has, with her mother and other things with her family, or with Kia and how shes in litigation against AOL, and her using AOL is detrimental to her case. Also, I never even knew that Ichiro and Oryx are over there. Wow, well Ihope they get back safe. And i always believed Nichowas doing the right thing, check the other thread about the new roster.
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